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    First off let me say im new to bows, so im still trying to figure out all the terminology.

    This past weekend I purchased a martin rack attack, aka exile. Ive been having some issues with the peep site moving on me and having to adjust it every 3-4 shots. From what ive read I see that this is normal to an extent, but is there anyway to minimize it? Right now id estimate I have roughly 100-150 shots through it. Ive also had some issues with the trg/sos, which I also believe is normal. Im a little confused as to how the sts installs though. Is it secured to the same place on the bow that the trg/sos does?

    Im also curious about accessories. I plan on getting a stabilizer, but really have no idea where to start with which one I should pick, is it just trial and error? Are there any in particular anyone would suggest?
    Are there any other must have accessories I should be looking at?

    Also, this bow is mainly going to be used for bowfishing, with hopefully a few hunts a year if that matters at all.

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    Welcome to the forum and congratulations on the new bow. A couple words of caution to you, this sport is very addicting. You may find yourself putting off chores, to go out in the back yard and fling some arrows. As for your new bow, please post some pictures so we can all see what you have. How much adjusting do you need to do to the peep? Do you need to move a quarter turn to the right, left, etc? If it is only a small adjustment, you may be able to slide the peep up or down the string a small amount. If it is a bigger adjustment, you may need to add or remove a twist from the string. With the stabilizer, it all depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Do you need it for balance, vibration dampening, or both? Check the bow tuning made easy section of this forum. This link is for peep rotation http://martinarchery.com/mtechforum/...on-a-must-read! Good luck.
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    Welcome to the website!

    I hope I am misunderstanding something here, but if I am not, I have to go against money man's suggestion of sliding the peep up and down. That will throw off your aim and ultimately your arrow's point of impact.

    As wrong as it seems, you probably need to do the string twist to get where you need to be. If you don't want to do it yourself just bring your bow by your local archery shop and they can make the adjustment for you.

    Although this may seem very intimidating to a new comer, it is really simple and worth while to do. I should know, not long ago I was in your same shoes, a newbie. The guys on this sight, YouTube and Google helped me out and I'm off and running now. If you aren't interested in learning how to do things you are in the wrong place. The guys on this site will have fixing, tweaking and adjusting things on your bow before you even have time to get worried about not knowing what you are doing. Stick around and you will have no choice but to learn if you pay attention to what is being said.

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    Heres some pictures of the bow...i shot it around 30-40 times this morning and ended up not having to mess with the peep, but im wondering if thats just because its 30 degrees cooler then it was when i was shooting this weekend? The only adjustment i was having to do before was move it up and it would usually fix the problem.


    This is the issue i have with the sos, the rubber string stopper broke at some point. There also seems to be a little wear on the strings due to the TRG.




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    This is one of my 10 yard groupings from this morning. im still trying to get it sighted in, i almost have it set horizontally, but i couldnt find my allen wrenches to set the pins this morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tx_medic View Post
    First off let me say im new to bows, so im still trying to figure out all the terminology.

    This past weekend I purchased a martin rack attack, aka exile. Ive been having some issues with the peep site moving on me and having to adjust it every 3-4 shots. From what ive read I see that this is normal to an extent, but is there anyway to minimize it? Right now id estimate I have roughly 100-150 shots through it. Ive also had some issues with the trg/sos, which I also believe is normal. Im a little confused as to how the sts installs though. Is it secured to the same place on the bow that the trg/sos does?

    Im also curious about accessories. I plan on getting a stabilizer, but really have no idea where to start with which one I should pick, is it just trial and error? Are there any in particular anyone would suggest?
    Are there any other must have accessories I should be looking at?

    Also, this bow is mainly going to be used for bowfishing, with hopefully a few hunts a year if that matters at all.
    welcome to MTF.the peep thing you have going on will be a twist or two in either direction.first off make sure your bow is in spec...ATA(axle to axle),BH(brace height) and lets start from there for now.i would put 2 or 300 shots through your bow to make sure your string has settled,then make the fix for your peep.if you dont like the TRG/SOS then give martin a call and they will send you a STS and rod/slide.picking out a stab is your choice.go to a pro shop and fit a few on your bow,take some shots and find what fits you best.

    the bows are very ez to work on.no bow press needed.stick around and learn a few things,have fun.if your in the market for new string then check out our in house string builder.http://martinarchery.com/mtechforum/...rings-for-sale!

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    Just wondering what kind(s) of problems are you having with your TRG/SOS? I assume since you only recently purchased it you haven't had a chance to shoot it much and based on what I've been reading it appeared most of the problems with the TRG/SOS weren't surfacing right away. Apparently some others have had some problems however it also seems like some guys haven't had any problems whatsoever. Also wondering what poundage you are shooting and was wondering if most of the problems with the TRG/SOS have been with long draw and/or heavy draw weights. In other words, would say shooting the TRG/SOS at 40-45 #'s and 26-27" draw still cause problems? Just curious, thanks.

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    the TRG/SOS is a problem waiting to happen. though there may be a few cases of people not having issues, the majority have experienced problems with the string/cable ware and the rubber on the SOS tearing. aside from the fact that it robs you of an anchor point since a kisser button cannot be used. i would most certainly in the case of the TRG/SOS,fix it before its broke. let's call it preventative maintanence since a simple phone call to Martin CS will get you the parts that GD mentioned and you can install them and enjoy your bow without worry of the string ware.

    the peep sight will stop twisting as much when the string settles. the factory strings are,according to alot of people,low quality. opinions vary on this subject,though. if its an option for you financially,you could order up a set of custom strings and cables. Hutch makes excellent strings at great prices. I've purchased 2 sets of strings from him. both sets seemed to significantly quiet the bows and add a bit of performance. both sets of strings settled in just a few shots and peep rotation is nearly non-existant.

    your Rack Attack(a.k.a Exile,Cheetah)is a sweet shooter and i'm sure you will enjoy it. it will serve you well as a bowfishing rig or a hunting rig. you've got a great bow. enjoy it. if you need help,just ask. the only stupid question is the one not asked. we're your on-line pro shop and you'll be doing all this stuff yourself. its easier than you think. Welcome to the forum

    and as far as a stabilizer goes,pick up a Sims S-coil. this bow balances well and really doesnt need anything more. but that all personal preference. just like everything else archery related
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    No disrespect guys, but I wouldn't try get this guy too concerned over his brand new bow. The worst thing we can do is having him regret buying it before he even gets started.

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    Take a deep breath, relax breath. Your bow is okay as is. If you want to in the future you can do everything we said. For now IMO and my opinion only I think at 200 shots your sting is settled in. I know my Hammerhead string was at that point. So maybe all you need to do is put a half or full twist on your string. Take a couple shots, 10-20, to let it settle in and see if it is in the right position. If not make 1/2 twist adjustments. Another option if you don't want to mess with it you can always put a tube sight in. My son prefered that so it is what I put on his. The great thing is he never has to worry about it not being in the right position because the tube pulls it straight every time. Change out the tube every hunting season and you will be problem free.

    You can check Axle to axle and brace and all that later. Just get it to where you can shoot it while you are learning about this stuff.
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    Thanks for the info so far, ive learned alot from this site already. The problem im having with the TRG/SOS is that the rubber string stop has already broken, and im already starting to get a little bit of string wear, nothing significant, but enough that if its not fixed now it will become a problem down the road. I did have some other issues with the bow when i first bought it, but the more i shoot it the more im starting to like it. The draw is pretty smooth, its comfortable in my hands and im fairly accurate considering i havent been able to get it sighted in properly yet.

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