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    Quote Originally Posted by SJunior View Post
    Seems like an easy fix, get something to put between the screw head and the rod or file down the screws then clean up the threads. Maybe shorter screws also.
    Yep, seems easy, but I haven't had any success yet. Anything between the screw and rod gets spit out as you tighten the rod down. In fact the screws should be on the bottom of the slot instead of the top. Why you ask? As you tighten the screws it pushes the sts rod out the back towards the string, on the bottom they would bottom the STS rod against the riser, not push it out. These are tiny screws, there is no filing them down. There would be no way to hold them and that really isn't the problem.

    This is a machining problem IMO. Also, as the riser gets tension on it, say going from 45# to 60# it flexes and opens up the slot. How do I know this? I took the bow apart and the STS rod fit tighter in the slot. I'm sure Martin plans for this but the tolerances must be off on my bow? Also, my string would move off center on my TRG (when I had it) when I would increase poundage as well so I know there is lateral flexing going on.
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    New question for you, when you changed the TRG did they send new screws for the rod and sts? Just replaced the TRG on my son's Leopard and noticed there were 2 different size screws, the smaller ones going to the sts. Could make a difference. But looking at my Silencer the screws are the same size, which should be the same as your Firecat. Got any pics?

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    BTW, the sts had plenty of room in the slot on the Leopard. Bought the Silencer with factory installed rod and sts but still looks like the sts goes in with no problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SJunior View Post
    New question for you, when you changed the TRG did they send new screws for the rod and sts? Just replaced the TRG on my son's Leopard and noticed there were 2 different size screws, the smaller ones going to the sts. Could make a difference. But looking at my Silencer the screws are the same size, which should be the same as your Firecat. Got any pics?
    My bow came with screws in the STS holes even though there was no STS. I know I shouldn't assume that they would put the right screws in the holes but I assume they put the right screws in the holes.

    This is my opinion. The countersunk holes are either not deep enough or the slot is flexing too much and allowing the rod too much clearance. I'm not about to pay a machinist the $60 minimum fee to find out if deeper countersunk holes will work. It could be the tolerance on slot is too great. I'm not about to go taking a drill to the riser to deepen them. Eventually (after bow season or I tag out) I will be in contact with Martin. I'm just not willing to give up my bow with 2 months left and the Rut about to start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SJunior View Post
    BTW, the sts had plenty of room in the slot on the Leopard. Bought the Silencer with factory installed rod and sts but still looks like the sts goes in with no problems.
    My STS goes in easy. It just won't stay put. If I try "shim" it up with tape on the rod then it gets tight to install but will loosen up after a few shots.
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    BTW, thanks for taking the time to help me try sort this out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MLN1963 View Post
    My bow came with screws in the STS holes even though there was no STS. I know I shouldn't assume that they would put the right screws in the holes but I assume they put the right screws in the holes.

    This is my opinion. The countersunk holes are either not deep enough or the slot is flexing too much and allowing the rod too much clearance. I'm not about to pay a machinist the $60 minimum fee to find out if deeper countersunk holes will work. It could be the tolerance on slot is too great. I'm not about to go taking a drill to the riser to deepen them. Eventually (after bow season or I tag out) I will be in contact with Martin. I'm just not willing to give up my bow with 2 months left and the Rut about to start.
    From waht I'm reading, that is what needs to be done. Sounds like the set screws are'nt making contact with the rod, therefore deeper holes and longer screws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elkslayer4x5 View Post
    From what I'm reading, that is what needs to be done. Sounds like the set screws aren't making contact with the rod, therefore deeper holes and longer screws.
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    I'm not going to do it (use a drill and deepen the countersinks) because I don't want Martin to say that I voided my warranty by making a modification to the riser. If it snapped there, I don't know why it would, then that is all they would need to wash their hands of it. Also, the STS rod is aluminum and it has some depressions in the rod so my mind keeps coming back to the slot flexing, maybe while drawing or at the shot, and it causing it to lose bite.
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    Cool TRG Swap out

    I changed out the TRG/SOS sysytem on my FC400 and WOW! shoots great and it fit perfect. Your will need to clean up the shaft and hole. I did use some others scews that I purchased that fit and keep the shaft tight. Hope this helps

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    well how long does it take to get they said that they sent them out on friday nights and said something about 3 days so would that mean i get them tomarrow...
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