after the failed attempt with the tilt tamer I stop and got some 3/8 rod and bent my own cable guard looks good I just bent it a little at a time till I got were I wanted it,if anybody wants the measurement they are the rod 7-3/8 long start the bend 3.5" from the rise side then put were you like, ps do a little at a time 0328121923_0001.jpgdownsized_0328121923.jpg