My son Gabriel just passed Hunters education and safety!. My wife and I took him to Cabela's last week and had him hold a Remington Youth Model .243 rifle and scope combo. Then told him when he passed the class he will get one of these. It worked!. He wanted to bow hunt like Daddy but he cannot safely pull and hold the minimum 40 pounds required in Washington. We are working on that part for next year. I have my eye's on a Savage Axis Youth model rifle. I'll buy a Vortex Scope for it, I hear great things about Vortex optics.