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    Default Bow Jax / LimbSavers - Limb Dampeners

    Do you guys feel these are necessary in your set-ups? So far I have had LimbSavers on all of my bows and have yet to purchase a set for the Bengal. Debating doing so in general, but in between the BowJax and the LS Ultra Quads. Not that I'm obsessed with speed, but I have read that they will rob you a little and if you aren't having much vibration/noise then they wouldn't really be necessary, no? Just wondering what everyone thinks.
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    I have been using the Limbsaver products on my setups for noise & vibration control. They do make a difference and that is more important to me than loosing 5-10 fps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by droppixel View Post
    Do you guys feel these are necessary in your set-ups? So far I have had LimbSavers on all of my bows and have yet to purchase a set for the Bengal. Debating doing so in general, but in between the BowJax and the LS Ultra Quads. Not that I'm obsessed with speed, but I have read that they will rob you a little and if you aren't having much vibration/noise then they wouldn't really be necessary, no? Just wondering what everyone thinks.
    I feel that the bow will tell you what it needs. No, all bows dont need vibration dampening but when you have one you know it. Ive used limbsaver products for many years with very good results. I do agree that over the years Ive become a creature of habit and sometimes apply them when they really arent needed, but I attribute that to being hard headed I guess!! A major part of my job is vibration data collection and analysis, I do this everyday. I guess its second nature for me to look for vibration and correct it. Im not one to load my cables and shooting strings with dampeners, over the years Ive had very few bows that really needed them. If I had to pick one item that I feel makes the biggest contributuon to vibration dampening it would have to be a high quality string stop.
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    I also use limbsaver products and have had alot of success i have not used bowjax so i cant say much about that but i my string i use good old cat whiskers and they do a great job!
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    I have scientific data Although I do not remember exact values and do not currently have access to the data.

    I tested both noise level and speed with Bowjax Slipjax string dampeners with my Onza 3 as part of my Hoyt CRX comparison test. Shooting noise was reduced by several decibels but speed was not reduced at all (measured the speed before & after). You could CLEARLY hear the difference in shooting noise and the precision decibel meter confirmed this. I installed the Slipjax dampeners as close to the cams as possible.

    I later attached Bowjax Monsterjax dampeners to the limbs, but I did not make any measurements and it was hard to detect any difference since the string silencers had already done their job so well. The string silencers made a huge difference, anyway. I highly recommend them.

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    Chances are greater than not that I will end up putting some on the limbs regardless if it needs it or not. Just one extra "piece of mind" thing I guess. Any extra vibration and sound dampening can't hurt. I agree with what you guys have said about the STS - that made a world of difference when I put on one my Cheetah. I am also a big believer in Whiskers, while I don't have anything on my Alien string right now, the bow feels pretty quiet as is. I know whiskers will really hush it up, so I still might look into a set for it. I have some leeches and some of the truglo string bats (similar to the slipjax), but haven't used them.
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    Speed is the biggest factor in noise. Take a 30/30 and a 3006 both shooting a 150 grain bullet and compare the noise level. Take your bow, whatever poundage you shoot and shoot two arrows the first the lightest IBO and the second a 50-70 grain heavier arrow and you will hear a marked difference. The easiest way to quiet your rig is simply shoot a heavier arrow. I have abandonded most all the junk to try to quiet my bows and just shoot a heavy arrow 420 grns out of a 50lb bow. The only thing I might consider is some whiskers cut in half to make smaller bunches, oh by the way guess what this does, it SLOWS your string down. I find I enjoy my bows much more keeping them light an uncluttered and they shoot just as well as when I had a 8' 2x4 strapped to the front for a stabilizer.

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    My 2 cents; For me, I'm a true believer that the Limb Saver and or Bowjax helps with vibration/noise, this helps with shot placement and follow though. I have always used Limb Save and have them on my Fire Cat and Cougar, I just placed the Bowjax on my 2012 Pantera and they works just as well. I changed from the STS to the Mac Daddy string stop and what a difference. The Mac Daddy is smooth and reduce sting vibration ten folds what the STS was doing. I had a 2009 Pantera that blew-up two set of Limbs. I placed Limb Savers on, didn't have any issue after that. In say that, I believe the Limbs were the older Limbs before the Power Tough came out. I guess it comes down to what feels good for the shooter, what habits' and set up you feel best with. I will stay with limb Savers as they fit better in a bow rack/clamps. The Limb Saver is smaller then the Bowjax's and fit a little bit better when using bow rack/clamps for ridding ATV/UTV. Sounds like the new bow has a good home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    I have scientific data Although I do not remember exact values and do not currently have access to the data.

    I tested both noise level and speed with Bowjax Slipjax string dampeners with my Onza 3 as part of my Hoyt CRX comparison test. Shooting noise was reduced by several decibels but speed was not reduced at all (measured the speed before & after). You could CLEARLY hear the difference in shooting noise and the precision decibel meter confirmed this. I installed the Slipjax dampeners as close to the cams as possible.
    Just checked my data. Installing the Slipjax to strings lowered the shooting sound of Onza 3 (set to 56# with 402 grain arrow) from 87 dB to 83,5 dB. That is a big difference!

    In comparison, Hoyt CRX shooting noise with similar string dampeners was 80,5 dB. But Hoyt also has factory installed limb dampeners. I installed the limb dampeners to Onza 3 later, but did no longer have the dB meter available. I would assume Onza 3 would get closer to CRX readings with the limb dampeners.

    Arrow speed was 267 fps before and after Slipjax installation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantonza View Post
    Just checked my data. Installing the Slipjax to strings lowered the shooting sound of Onza 3 (set to 56# with 402 grain arrow) from 87 dB to 83,5 dB. That is a big difference!

    In comparison, Hoyt CRX shooting noise with similar string dampeners was 80,5 dB. But Hoyt also has factory installed limb dampeners. I installed the limb dampeners to Onza 3 later, but did no longer have the dB meter available. I would assume Onza 3 would get closer to CRX readings with the limb dampeners.

    Arrow speed was 267 fps before and after Slipjax installation.
    That gives me a great idea, Im going to take some data on my Onza with ultrasonic sound detectors doing a before and after with some of the dampeners that Im using! Ill take everythinjg off of it at first to get a db baseline.
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