Ive shot the same 3d league now for about 10 years and ive always shot martin, anyways my father and i (who has shot martin for about 20 years) are the only martin shooter until recently. Last shoot i noticed a guy who formerly was shooting hoy had a 2012 pantera, i asked him how he likes the bow he said " i love it!" then he went on telling me about how martin fixed all there issues this year. I replied "issues? ive never had any issues that couldnt have been handled by the regular maintnence. But anyway its good to see some people coming to there senses on the right product