Martin Rocks....Joel rocks......And as for this forum....I honestly feel like quitting AT sometimes and going here exclusive. But I still use AT once in a while. I never thought bows would get like cars and houses. If your neighbor has one, you better go buy one too. I am sick of the big 3 getting rammed down our throats on AT. I posted a really nice review complete with lots of pics about my 2012 silencer and got a fair amount of responses all positive. But I think several of them were members from this forum who saw my post here linking it. I bet if I had bought one of the big 3 bows and did an equal review, to this day the thread would still be going, 12 pages long with replies.