Martin x-200 unsure of year
2009 Martin cheetah
2012 Martin Saber Take-down
2012 Martin Bengal pro
2013 Martin Nemesis 35
Hey DZ, the Nitro cams all have cam lean, and it does get worse when at full draw. Its just the nature of the beast. Like Joel and WWilt said, as long as it is not severe its no problem.
The frustrating thing I see in your post is that it seems the "old guy" you bought the bow from doesn't know or doesn't care enough to know the ins and outs of the new bows he is selling. Which is sad. If you were closer I'd help you out, cause these Nitro cams are a breeze to set up when you know what you're doing.
Hopefully everything works out bud! In the mean time, smile; YOU GOT A NEW BOW! And pics are not only requested but required
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2011 Onza 3: 70#, 28.25 draw (AMO), 384 gr arrow, 288 fps
2005 Saber: 70#, same arrow, 250 fps
I was shooting my bows after work for a bit and looked at my cams a lot closer....I see a little lean but barely notice its there. I'm glad there are people on here to school me on martins hybrid cams. To me if its not broke don't fix it. Thanks for the info everyone.
Well I appreciate everyone's input, I've only been in archery 3 years , the old man told me many bows have lean, but they all don't.... To me it's like saying a small gas leak isn't a problem, but with any leak they get worse over time..., had I known this I would have checked out some other bows...what I've gathered here is when you get used to something being wrong it becomes the normal to you therefore it's an on going problem
I have 2011 Martin Onza III which has minimal cam lean. I also own a 2012 Rytera Nemesis which has a more noticeable cam lean. Since there are no yokes in these bows, there is practically no way to adjust the angle of the cams. BUT: they both were very easy to tune to shoot bullet holes and have the same point of impact with broadheads and field tips. And this tuning was by simply adjusting the nocking point and arrow rest. You also need to check cam synchronization which was perfect out of the box with both my Onza and Nemesis. I see no reason to worry about the slight cam lean - these just shoot great.
As I said, the reason why these bows (Hoyt - Bowtech - Martin/Rytera) respond so differently to cam angle is a mystery to me. The geometry of the bows seems very comparable, so what the heck makes them behave so differently (Martin/Rytera having the most civilized behavior).
Last edited by Phantonza; 04-09-2013 at 02:06 AM.
Rytera Nemesis, 2012
Martin Onza 3, 2011
Hoyt CRX 32, 2011 (SOLD)
Martin Phantom II, 2003
If I didn't work so much id fiddle with it myself, but I'm gonna take it to a local bow tech dealer on town, he tuned my exile for me last year and did an excellent job. I guess I always thought cam lean was a developed issue not simply the physics of the bow. Ill say this , the bow shoots pretty dang good. Much quieter than the exile, no vibration whatsoever, no torque, draw is a little stiffer than is like, but ill get used to it.
Cam lean "started" several years ago on ArcheryTalk when some brainiac decided to look a the top cam of his Bowtech bow while shooting...then another guy did it....and they posted pictures...and so did his friend, and on, and on, and on. Was there ever an issue with these bows?...no...but because one guy posted this on AT it suddenly turned into an epidemic.
Last edited by joelc; 04-09-2013 at 02:56 PM.
I'm glad joelc of "Martin Archery" cleared this up for me...I've been schooled!