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Thread: Got coffee? Bored, raining out? Read ramblings....

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    It's not raining here; it's snowing!

    Sonny, you have some neat 'stuff'! I found your thread on 'Bow Tuning is Secondary'; could not agree more, for what my extreme amateur status is worth. I think this relates;

    My first bow; a, I thought, beautiful wooden risered Browning, I decide to put some new fangled 'gizmos' on; a peep and sights! Went out to sight 'er in and, man, had I ever got things lined up close to right! At twenty yards, my groups had opened up some, up to about full pie plate size, but these fancy new accuracy enhancing devices were gonna work, soon as I fine tuned them some and got used to them. I'd move the site a bit and.... the group would still be the same size and in the same place. Move the sight some more, the group would still be the same size and in the same place. Move it some more, still the same result. It took me quite a while, you've probably noticed I'm not overly bright, but I finally realized I was still instinctively shooting; I'd get the peep, sight and spot on target all lined up and, as I released my fingers, my mind would force my form to compensate to hit the target. My arm kept wanting to move, I could feel it 'fighting' me, even after I figured out what I was doing. Once I knew what was going on, I could still feel my left hand trying to jerk the bow onto target. I actually had the sight about a foot and a half low left! Took real hard concentration to ever get sight sighted in. I've caught myself doing the same thing with my Cougar.

    Another thing I think reinforces Sonny's Thread; while still instinctively shooting, I would have three, four inch groups at twenty yards. I'd have three, four inch groups at thirty yards; the same at forty; perhaps five inches, but basically the same groups at all distances. Of course, beyond forty yards was well out of bow range, so never shot farther. {:>)

    The point being, a synchronized mind and body can overcome less than perfect tuning, as is Sonny's point, as well as conscious attempts at changing it. The human mind is quite the computerized aiming devise.

    Hi, Spiker!

    Last edited by otisT; 04-23-2013 at 01:00 AM.

  2. #32
    Sonny Thomas

    Default Got coffee? Bored, raining out? Read ramblings....

    Otis, thank you. And you sort of followed my very steps. I went to them fancy sights and sure enough the paid off. Yep, I found I could miss more accurately

    Spiker, thanks for the re-hash. I spoke with nuts&bolts about twisting strings and cables some time back and we both agreed in principal - do what you gotta do.

    Getting kinda perturbed with this one bow, I knew twist this and twist that and went on a rampage... I speced out this bow and began untwisting cables and twisting the bow string torturously. Not only did I get this bow down to my draw length. I made the bow exactly to the mod settings. I took right at 2" out of the draw while maintaining bow specs, ata, bh, and draw weight. Now, I checked arrow speed before the horrendous twisting and after I was done it still had the same velocity.

    The bow string was actually trying roll up on it's self, like knot. I didn't care. As soon as I got some draw weight on the string it straightened and with the limbs maxed out it look normal except the spirals of the string sure were close.

    So twisting up a bow string isn't all that good. So I backed off to get what I thought better. The next time I run into this, bow being factory, I'll send to M&R Bow Strings and have string made that make it right. By the way, M&R charged me about $100 for the new set of strings, this being labor to find cable and string measurment, cost of strings, testing (make sure it didn't atomic bomb) and shipping the bow back to me.

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