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    This is unreal!!!! I am very thankful to Cabela's for making this known. GOD HELP US ALL!! Pass this around to EVERYONE!

    Hooray for Cabela's!

    Even if you don't hunt or fish…go to your nearest Cabela's and buy something…perhaps a gun to further piss-off Obama!

    GOTTA READ THIS!! -ITS A MUST!

    Medical Excise Tax on Retail Receipts


    The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be "hidden" from the consumer, but it's been brought to the public's attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela's who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts, the email states.
    I did some research and found directly from the IRS's website information that PROVES this to be true, and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of! Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!
    Q1. What is the medical device excise tax? A1. Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

    Q2. When does the tax go into effect? A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable medical devices after Dec. 31, 2012.
    Q3. How much is the tax? A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price. IRS.gov

    Chapter Five http://www.irs.gov/publications/p510/ch05.html

    So being more curious I clicked on "Chapter 5 Of IRS Publication 510."

    And what do I find under "MEDICAL DEVICES" under"MANUFACTURERS
    TAXES"?

    The following discussion of manufacturers taxes

    Applies to the tax on: Sport fishing equipment;
    Fishing rods and fishing poles;

    Electric outboard motors;

    Fishing tackle boxes; Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
    Arrow shafts;

    Coal;

    Taxable tires;

    Gas guzzler automobiles; and Vaccines.

    IRS.gov I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care.
    It truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill Laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people Have yet to be aware of.

    Please pass this on. I am still incredulous that this can go on. Where is our press? I guess it’s just like Nancy Pelosi said…….

    We have to pass it to see what is in it. What is next? What else is there we do not know about? I am sick to death about our government……

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    The difference between Hitler and our 'government' is that Hitler wanted it now, and our 'rulers' learned that they must be patient and enslave us one day at a time.

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    And Hitlers social plans actually helped his country. Granted, he was a genocidal warmongering lunatic, but his social reform is still in use today.
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    Was listening to Hannity the other day and a guest brought up an interesting point; he believed that Obamacare was designed to fail.... Not only does it impose a ton of hidden taxes on EVERYONE that will piss people off, but it is not maintainable. Meaning its insolvent from the beginning and if it stays active long it will bankrupt us as individuals and as a country.

    Why would the guberment push such a thing on us? Its one more step towards total socialism; when it fails miserably, the leaders on the left can say "Oh well, we tried a "balanced social approach" to healthcare insurance, and it doesn't work. The only thing that can make it solvent is to make it a "single payer system"...

    What is that you ask? That is where the entire medical system is taken over by the government. There will be no "health insurance" it will all be run by the guberment making us dependent on them for our healthcare.
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    Which is the left's ultimate goal. Make everyone totally dependent on the government.
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    Exactly, which is why for instance, there has been a HUGE increase in the number of people on disability and on food stamps. Did you know that the USDA actually has "recruiters" that get paid a salary and bonuses based on the number of people they "sell" food stamps to? Doesn't matter if the recipients need them or not, if they qualify they "should be recieving benefits, its your right"...
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    that's old news, but very good and very true. Screw Obama, he and his regime can rot!
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    The interesting part of Obama-care is they never came out and said what the tax rate is going to be, not specifically and with details. Like social security, it was sold as a trivial price with great benefits. SS was 2% when first introduced. Now, it's over 15% with both employee and employer portions added together. Obama-care will end up being over 20% within a decade or less. Added to SS, fed tax, and of course state, sales, property, and all those other hidden taxes, our effective rate is nearing around 80%.

    Health care is grossly over priced for a myriad of reasons. One of them is we are subsidizing a lot of the medicine sold in the other countries. Many people aren't aware of this but much of the world imposes a price cap on drug prices. Remember some of the pointed scenes in Sicko? Some inhaler for 50 cents in Cuba costs around 50 bucks here. It's not because the drug company is ripping us off. It's because Cuba told the drug company, "You can only charge our people 50 cents for that inhaler. We don't care what it actually costs. If not, you can't sell anything here. " Same throughout Europe and Canada. That's why medicine from Canada is so much cheaper. Guess who gets to make up the difference? We do. Only because we still have a free market system being strangled by free loading socialists worldwide.

    Another issue is the AMA. They control the number of students in medical school. Keeping the numbers down ensures artificially high salaries. Those same doctors that hand out total disability vouchers like candy. Yes, we are being slowly but surely enslaved by a government and it's our own doing. Too many people want their entitlement and someone else to pay for it. Government is all too willing to grant their wish because in the end, government will own them and the rest of us forced to pay for their unwillingness to fend for themselves. Gone are the days of the pursuit of happiness. Now it's a guaranteed marginal existence at 100% tax rate. After all, we're all too inept to make it on our own. That's what D.C. wants us to buy into.
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    Some small business and other larger companies will start dropping individual employees insurance and force the worker to take Obama care come 1 Jan 14, or the employee will pay the IRS a fine for not having insurances. This will create large savings for business in 2014 but will have to provide a heath insurance plan by Jan 2015; this will cost the employer and employee more for coverage than currently. Businesses also are hoping that the employee will just stay on some type of the federal Obama care plan as this will be a savings to the employer. I believe a lot more will come out this year as a negative impact on Americans. The low informed American that love's this dud, hopeful will start to figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tosi View Post
    Some small business and other larger companies will start dropping individual employees insurance and force the worker to take Obama care come 1 Jan 14, or the employee will pay the IRS a fine for not having insurances. This will create large savings for business in 2014 but will have to provide a heath insurance plan by Jan 2015; this will cost the employer and employee more for coverage than currently. Businesses also are hoping that the employee will just stay on some type of the federal Obama care plan as this will be a savings to the employer. I believe a lot more will come out this year as a negative impact on Americans. The low informed American that love's this dud, hopeful will start to figure it out.
    This and all that was said above it. Let's see, who might some of the free loaders be? How about 71% of the Latinos who voted for Obama. And now they want to let another 11+ million in on the freebie chain. So what's that? 8 million more votes for liberal socialism.
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