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    From split finger, been shooting that way since that was how I shot recurves as a kid and was being stubborn; keep hearing how much better it is and it seemed all of the good sightless recurve shooter use 3 under. I had been shooting my Mamba regularly till just before the 4th and hadn't really been improving, especially at distances; did fine with this bow last Spring turkey hunting but that was all close range, inside 10 yds. I always shot the longer Hunter better, and starting thinking about why and the one thing that was different was the length and possible finger pinch with the shorter Mamba. So I shot for the first time for over a week a couple days ago and started good but began to miss more, mostly high. Then I decided to try 3 under, the improvement was noticeable right away; surprisingly it didn't take long to adjust my aim. The arrow was now right under my eye, a much better sight picture, even though I am shooting instinctive and ignoring the arrow. I guess it's easier for the subconscious to line things up with less error.

    Still to need to shoot a lot more to get used to it but I'm already improving, getting a much cleaner, more consistent release; think I was getting uneven finger pressure on the nock with split. Need to order some tabs made for 3 under, still using one made for split with a finger spacer.
    Recurves: 40lb X-200, 45 & 50lb Hunters, 45lb Mamba

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    If he doesn't get on here you might want to talk to Don B. He shoots a Scepter or ShadowCat with fingers. I know it's a compound and there is a difference, but he shoots sans sight with fingers and appears to do quite well at it. I shoot split fingers, but rarely shoot past 20 yards as I do know my interest and limitations. Might have to give three under a try in prep for the coming indoor season. Shooting a fixed distance it should work fairly well if I put my mind to it. Thanks for bringing it up. Gives me something new to learn.
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    Try it Barry, I was hesitant because I thought it was a drastic change that would take a while to get used to, I was wrong.
    Recurves: 40lb X-200, 45 & 50lb Hunters, 45lb Mamba

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    Barry, and CaptJJ,
    When shooting a compound and a recurve with fingers, I shoot them the same.
    When I shoot right handed I shoot split fingers with a glove, just no index finger to put on top.
    When shooting left handed I shoot 3 under with a tab.
    I have a dead release no matter what hand or type of bow I shoot. I set them up all the same and shoot them the same.
    If you have any questions just ask.
    I do have 2 videos on you tube, one - Shooting my Shadowcat and one Shooting my recurve.
    Do a search on you tube under my name.
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    Don;
    Right handed, left handed and with the teeth... handed; about got 'em all covered, do you? lol... while I'll never again shoot without a release, always interested in your posts with pictures. Like to see where those Deer Crossing arrows with the trick cutout Gator feathers go, and would love to see videos, just can't find them. Could you, would you, please, post links or give up 'name'? Probably on your page somewhere... where, I don't know... Thanks... o
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    Quote Originally Posted by otisT View Post
    Don;
    Right handed, left handed and with the teeth... handed; about got 'em all covered, do you? lol... while I'll never again shoot without a release, always interested in your posts with pictures. Like to see where those Deer Crossing arrows with the trick cutout Gator feathers go, and would love to see videos, just can't find them. Could you, would you, please, post links or give up 'name'? Probably on your page somewhere... where, I don't know... Thanks... o
    Otis,
    If you were to do a search on you tube for zestycj7 they are there.
    I believe I have even posted them on here.
    But here you go....
    Oops, I forgot I don't use that screen name on this forum, here you go.
    Don.
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    Last edited by Don B; 07-13-2014 at 09:38 AM.
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    I shoot Bowhunter, not barebow--fingers non-sights.
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    Thanks for posting, Don. Fun to watch someone you 'know' even if only on this forum. I find watching your form (or different forms), esp. how you drop down then come up to 'feel' for release spot, interesting. Thanks.... o

    P.S. lol just thinking, you made tooth shooting look so natural, someone seeing that as their first brush with archery would think that was the way it was always done.
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    like don, i also shoot barebow compound and barebow recurve the same, but with 2 under (light bows, small fingers and face, short draw length allows this) and high anchor.
    but i only shoot right handed.

    started shooting compound with 3 under as a beginner. when i started with light recurve in the 3d off season i began with drawing anchoring and releasing with 2 under. then when 3d season started and i picked up the compound again, i found myself shooting 2 under, due to my recurve habit. made for a better release than 3. i use the same calf hair tab for both recurve and compound.

    a woman in my 3d shoot division draws with 2 fingers and releases with 1. the pointer. noticed she has just 1 turn of electrical tape on that pointer.

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    What would you guys recommend to start my grandson off with? I only know the split finger method that I tried 40 years ago. Where I believe the pointer finger was right at the corner of the mouth. I think the 3 under is the one where you hold the arrow right below the eye. Is that right?
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    Yes, the arrow is close to the shooter's eye, my grandson prefers 3 under, says it was easier to "aim". Also easier to find your "point of aim", the distance where you and your bow hold the point of the arrow on the target. With 3 under that point is closer than with split fingers. For instance for me, using split finger, index finger in corner of mouth, the point of my arrow is on target at 45 yards, using 3 under, same anchor, its 30 yards. Once you find your point of aim, the gaps are easier to estimate for other distances. Give it a try guys!
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