Martin Jaguar T/D
I just got one of your new Jaguar T/D's and love it! I am happy to see that such an awsome product can be produced here in the USA at a very reasonable price.
Thanks Martin/Howatt....you guy's ROCK!!!
Hope mine are in route to us as well...... The kids in my youth group have been anxiously waiting on them since I ordered them back in December!
I have one order, should be here in two weeks. I've only seen pictures and have noticed the shelf is not crowned; I shoot off the shelf. Any suggestions?
I also shoot off the shelf on my other bows, but on the Jaguar, I use the elevated rest that Martin includes with the bow. You will get awsome arrow flight as you can adjust it way past center if you want. After shooting mine this way, I am tempted to put an elevated rest on one of my other bows also.
If you really want to shoot off the shelf, I would make a radius out of a 1" or 2" dowel, split in 1/3 and glue it onto the shelf and sight window. I'm sure you could make it work good.
I would recommend trying the elevated rest first. You might like it!
What I was advised yesterday is that if you have not already recieved your Jaguar T/D (from the first production run of limbs) it is likely you will not see it until "next month sometime". The next batch of limbs are in route to Walla Walla currently.
Originally Posted by SoCalArcher
Last edited by SandSquid; 04-01-2009 at 06:36 PM.
Great suggestion! I'll try the dowel; however, I will give the elevated rest a shot.
Got mine on order today. Martin has the limbs and is working on back orders now. So I ordered from a dealer today to get in the back order status.
My second Jaguar arrived today...
Don't get me wrong... I'm a Martin fan. I love my X-200 and just acquired a Mountaineer. I've also got a Damon Howatt Bandito.
My first Jaguar arrived to my door on Monday. It had no string, it had no rest, it had no manual, it had no limb bolts. The limbs appeared to be "unfinished". Ok, to be fair, my eye may have become a little more critical since I'm applying the finish to my first longbow (built from scratch), but, the limbs appeared to have arrived without being finish sanded, and had no "finish" on them. A real concern for me, given that I live in Western Washington, where it's always raining. I spoke with Joel at Martin, and he's promised to make the bow right. I sent it back to him Monday afternoon.
Today... the "second" Jaguar bow I ordered arrived to my door. It's "complete" as far as the "parts" contained within the box. The limbs fit into the bow nicely, and appear to work just fine... however... the "finish" on these limbs is not what I expect from a Martin product. If I'm not "careful"... sliding my hands along the limbs COULD result in getting slivers. That's NOT an issue with my X-200, nor with my Mountaineer. Again... my eye/hands are becoming more critical after making my own longbow, and the Mountaineer appears to've been sanded with 220 grit and a few coats of clear sprayed on it... it's sure not "glassy smooth"... I know, it's a production bow. But, I really don't think seeing "Martin" on the limbs (this second Jaguar)of a bow which will give me splinters (literally) is what buying a "Martin" bow is all about. If it was being marketed as a "finish it yourself bow"... I'd be tickled pink and wouldn't think a thing of it.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THESE ITALIAN LIMBS STACK UP AGAINST THE DAMON HOWATT BUILT LIMBS !!!
I've got the Howatt produced limbs on mine, and I am happy with them. You can see some slight sanding marks on the sides of the limbs if held up into the light just right, but they are smooth if you run your fingers down them. I am not expecting a custom finished product for the price, but am happy with what they are. Definately no chance of catching a sliver as you described with the ones that you recieved.
I'm sure Martin will take care of any issues that you have.
The Martin Tech Forum isn't the only forum buzzing about the Martin Jaguar Recurve. Seems everyone is curious and many others chasing shadows about the Jaguar, i.e. overseas limbs, Howatt limbs, old overstock risers, new risers, etc. Also, you have to balance out the comments made by over optimistic, bias moderators and those that would criticize their own grandmothers. The determining factor for me is the Martin reputation for quality; if it's not right, they'll make it right.
I'm still waiting for mine, ordered March 16th, and I just ordered another this morning. That will total eight bows for me, three Black Widows, one Horne's Archery and four Martins. Yes, I shoot them all.