Well guys the arrows arrived today from www.bowproshop.com. Ordered on evening of 26th and received afternoon of 29th, now that's fast. I also made a mistake on the order and the folks corrected it no questions even after getting the order together. So just wanted to put good feedback out there about them. Now to get cut to length, inserts installed, wraps and fletching done and then finally get to shooting. Many more questions to come as far as tuning I'm sure. Hunt and shoot safe everyone.