The ? is what is better?

[Hutch~n~Son Archery]

Cable guard still around still works.
Shoot thru's not around any more.
CCS came and almost gone already.
TRG already having some minor problems.

Should I stay with the cable guard or try the TRG?
Not sure what do you think?

Hutch

[kylecurtis04]

what problems has the TRG had?

[Spiker]

Cable guard still around still works.
Shoot thru's not around any more.
CCS came and almost gone already.
TRG already having some minor problems.

Should I stay with the cable guard or try the TRG?
Not sure what do you think?

Hutch

Like ya said - rod and slide work just fine. And are tunable...
X systems are awesome - just noisy and cumbersome so will never catch on. (If I were young again and a target shooter I wouldn't have anything else)
CCS - I have it on 4 bows and have no problems at all.
TRG - no opinion cuz I dont have one to put thru my torture tests...

Summary - how about an angled slide...?...

[Hutch~n~Son Archery]

what problems has the TRG had?

Here is a link. http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechfo...ead.php?t=8635


Hutch

[kylecurtis04]

Here is a link. http://www.martinarchery.com/mtechfo...ead.php?t=8635


Hutch

oh yea. I remember that post, but that had nothing to do with the TRG system itself. Somehow serving got on the cable, wether it was martin or the owner Im sure we will never know, and the serving was sliding up and down on the TRG causing it to eat at each other. If the serving was gone then this would have never been a problem.

[bfisher]

Cable guard still around still works.
Shoot thru's not around any more.
CCS came and almost gone already.
TRG already having some minor problems.

Should I stay with the cable guard or try the TRG?
Not sure what do you think?

Hutch

I doubt there is a perfect solution, no matter what. The old cable guard creates torque and lateral nock travel. The CCS creates torque and lateral nock travel. The TRG, helps minimize this, but is still in it's infancy. If Martin keeps it aroond then maybe they'll refine it some or one of the other companies will. The problem is that companies keep comping out with something NEW & IMPROVED, but never keep it around long enough to improve upon it.

I know Copterdoc and a few others are going to agree with me, as I consider the Nitrous X system to be the best that has come along since the mid 70's when bows had 4 wheels, two of those mounted mid-limb which held the cables to the side for fletching clearance while having an equal amount of tension on both sides of the wheel. Even this had a little torque as the string groove in the cam was offset about 5/32" away from center (left on a RH bow).

I had heard so many negative comments about Nitrous X cams from people who never shot them nor had any idea how the system worked. Such comments as cutting the cables with a broadhead while loading the bow just had no merit. Stupid people!!!!!!! They had no idea that the arrow was loaded from the front with the nock backed through the cables and onto the string, which became easy to do with the slightest bit of practice.

Instead of canning the Nitrous X Martin should have expanded on the idea and redesign the cams to get the draw cycles they have on the Binaries. Maybe even keep the Nitrous, change the letoff, and give it a more solid wall. Give us different modules for 65% like they did before. But I guess that's all history now.

[Hutch~n~Son Archery]

So I guess Barry, wait and see how the TRG pans out before buying one.

Hutch

[Ehunter]

Hutch, I can't complain one bit about the TRG system. What little build up I get on the cables is easily wiped off in a matter of seconds. It's really not much worse than the wax build-up you get with a standard cable slide. No signs of any wear on the cables or TRG itself. I'm thinking if anything, the build-up will diminish even more over time as the cables "polish" the TRG. The one and only problem I see with the TRG is in mounting some rests, like the NAP drop away containment rest. Those will require a slight modification of the rest. The TRG system isn't actually a new idea. The basic design has been around for a few years, and other comapnies have played with the design. I just think Martin was the first to get a good working model, and start using it.

[bucknuts17]

could someone explain the trg system what does it stand for?

[MLN1963]

Torque Reduction Guard