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    A lot of questions come up. On how to tell if the bear is a shooter.

    One thing you need to know is how big can the bear in your area get. One can call A state biologist. Or look in the record books. Do not go buy what the guy at the local bar saysÖ

    Once you know the average size your task now is to tell if itís a young bear that needís time to grow, or if itís a decent bear to take , maybe itís one that you may regret passing up, to the defiantly going to put you in the trophy pages Ö

    Things to look for,
    Earís, do they set on top of the head an look like He should be at Disneyland ? A younger bear !
    Or smaller ears on the side of the head ? A older bear !
    The larger bear will have a crease running up the forehead between the ears
    One can use the Triangle technique below to help out..

    How long are his legs ? If it lookís rather tall chances are itís a young bear and one should let it grow another year or two
    Larger bearís have a side to side roll to their gate and very short looking legs
    If you have tracks just measure across the pad and add 1Ē
    This converts to length of bear in feet, so a 4Ē track was made by a approximate 5 footer.

    Take a look at the pictures ask your self , Let it walk or Shoot 1st chance you get
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    Thanks for the info. They just opened a bear season here a couple years back. Actually had a guy get one about 5 miles from me the first year. It runs with our deer (gun) season. I know there are a few around here. My buddy saw one on the way to work one afternoon.
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    #3 makes the hit list and as you said there's no question on #4, and I'll bet the question in your mind is which did I bump last July. I swear, you need a 3.5, not as rollypolly as your 4, but his head was as big. I'm pretty sure you and I watched 3 climb over a log and look at us. You shlep back in there and get his pic?
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    Yea Im sure he fit in there some place, your County is in the book's for big burins
    Per that big guy turning an gruntin at us when you hit the predator call.
    No never did, good chance he's still around too.. our bear numbers are up also
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    Yeah, both of 'em most likely will be near where we saw then, the Oreaon bear is past # 3 by now, if he made it thru the last 3-4 seasons, and no reason he would'nt. I think he's still in that area because of all that gravel road between the gate, and that ridge crease he was hanging in, ain't nobody going into that tangle after him, it was his mistake that let us see him, one he's not likely to make again, barely got away with it that time. I'm thinking he'd make the books, or mention, he was 370-425#'s last we saw of his big butt disappering into the devils club. If you visit your mom and sister after a zone acrhery closes, Bear open two weeks later, and I know that bear is sliding down Two Log and over to the campground at Dunlap, Pretty sure that why I ran into him as he was working his way over to those two WU camps. Then theres all those problem bears up around Rockport. your cousin says he hears sheriff calls for bear trouble from there every other night. But I think those are more likely cubs, or worse, sows and cubs. Makes a solo hunter stop and think before he pushes the play button on the FoxPro remote
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    What your not worried about this guy are ya thats why you pack 180 gr .357 mag. for back up, or have you got the others loaded up yet
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    Hope my bruin looks like this now. They say a bore will reach max skull size @ 9 - 10 years old... take into account he was prime then
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    Yeah, the one snarling is why I'm loading the 180 Hornedy GMX's! That and the use of the FoxPro, gonna be real tough to explain to that hungry Sow and her 3/4 grown Cubs, that you're not really hiding the distressed fawn they came running to see.
    Yeah, that what I was thingking your bear should be looking like now. I know how much of a hike it would be to go in after him, before the timber company opens the gate. But we both know thats how we'll ever see him again, gonna have to hike in there, could take the mountain bikes in, that would make it a lot easier to bring him back out.
    Speaking of which, I did find the Hardwoods Gray, but its problematic, as it has a water resistent outter finnish, the back side is untreated, and will retain blood stains. And, its $17 a yd, I'd recomend the Advantage Timber, just like Rhino's bow case.
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    Sounds good to me Always like the looks of Adv Timber

    You brought up a good point.. what if mama comes in...

    You can not shoot a sow with cub's.
    One must deside if that large burin is a Bore Or Sow....one way of corse is if you see cub's. But what if she leaves them Hidden in the brush ? another way is if you see IT is Obvious a bore
    But other then that a sow tends to a a bit shorter appearing more rounded,
    where the bore is longer an some what taller
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    "You can not shoot a sow with cub's."
    I know that as well as you do. However that being said, it doen't mean I can't throw enough lead into the rocks and dirt in front of her to make her think of something else she had to do, over the nearest ridge. You've seen me handle that Tracker, pretty sure I can change her mind. And if it came down to to it, there's no way she gets past me to you or the Rhino.
    I think that you should make this same post over on the 3D hunting pages as well as broadhead.com, its slowly picking up there as more guys join up, and speaking of joining up, where's Joey?
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